Book hinge

Jul. 22nd, 2009 09:07 am
morgaina: (bookbinding)
[personal profile] morgaina
I'm working on longstitch books again. I am using linen for the connecting hinge. Does anyone have suggestions of a glue to attach the hinges to the covers that does not mottle and make the hinge look so stained when aforementioned glue dries?
So far I've tried wheat paste glue, Elmers, and Mod Podge, all have discolored the fabric.
My Guru is deep in the backwoods of Idaho for the summer so I can't ask him.
Thanks,

Date: 2009-07-22 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ya-inga.livejournal.com
Hmm have you tried either fish glue or hide glue? They are both quite stinky but nice to work with in my experience

Date: 2009-07-22 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copper-oxide.livejournal.com
Wow! No I haven't.
Are they available at good hardware stores?
I can deal with bad smells ;-)

Thanks!!

Date: 2009-07-22 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ya-inga.livejournal.com
I buy my fish glue at LeeValley. I can't recall where I got my hide glue tho'

I've never done bookbindery so I don't know how they are for this application but they are good glues and if I recall correctly hide glue is a common paste used in bookbindery (I've judge this stuff)

Date: 2009-07-22 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ornerie.livejournal.com
yay Lee Valley!

isnt elmers essentially hide glue?

also, I can put you in contact with either Whitney (she of the book from kingdom A/S) and/or Gwen (one of my posse who is also a professional paper artist) and they can likely set you up?

Date: 2009-07-22 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ya-inga.livejournal.com
dunno about der elmers : ) Could be!

Whitney is Sabine right? she ROCKS!!!!!!!!!

Date: 2009-07-22 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ornerie.livejournal.com
she does indeed rock :)
I am delighted she's re-surfaced. yay for us!!

Date: 2009-07-22 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gattagrigia.livejournal.com
Elmer's is polyvinal acetate. Dunno if that's similar to 'hide glue' or not, but the one time I used rabbit hide glue, it didn't feel or smell like Elmers.

Date: 2009-07-22 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ya-inga.livejournal.com
Yay for us indeed! Her brain is MOST excellent!

Date: 2009-07-22 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ornerie.livejournal.com
ah! dunno why I was thinking that, unless it USED to be hide glue and then not :)

JL should still have my little bag of fish glue flakes somewhere...if they didnt rehydrate from the ambient moisture!

Date: 2009-07-22 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copper-oxide.livejournal.com
I'm on Sabine's Facebook. She & I have the same Guru although she is MUCH more advanced in the craft than I am.

Date: 2009-07-22 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copper-oxide.livejournal.com
You know, in the deep dark recesses of my hovel I believe I have some dried rabbit skin glue. I will go on a quest to find it.

Date: 2009-07-22 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copper-oxide.livejournal.com
Way back when I was a little kid "they" used to tell us it was made out of horse hooves when I tried to eat it the other kids tried to eat it. That was probably healthier to eat than polyvial acetate though ;-)
Edited Date: 2009-07-22 07:03 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-07-22 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwen-the-potter.livejournal.com
Rabbit skin glue...thin and not like glue at all to me. Used to use it on canvases before painting, instead of gesso.

Date: 2009-07-23 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] rectangularcat
you can get hide, fish or rabbit skin glue at www.sinopia.com

http://www.sinopia.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=88

They rock for all kinds of bookbinding and scribal supplies. Don't ask me how I know since I do neither. Oh yeah I was looking for hide glue as its used in some dye recipes to keep the hand in silk.

Date: 2009-07-24 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copper-oxide.livejournal.com
Thanks,
That does look like a good supply store.

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